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Bane Nucleus
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Posted - 2012.04.17 22:19:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote:
They haven't said anything about whether or not they are nerfing the w-space bounty payouts,
Exactly they have not said anything. Every other space has had an announcement of changes & it seems they're being adversly affected and being ignored by CCP is what all should strive for if they like playing the game in thier respective niches. Sounds like to me since the peeps living in W-space are not complaining about anything maybe that means they should get a shake up in the ant farm So you want WH space to be nerfed, because no one is complaining about it being imbalanced? :/ I don't really see the logic in that. Actually I want to see the ISK faucet there ( blue loot ) to be equally cut 10% just as all other bounties & payouts which CCP Soundwave says needs to be done. Fewer peeps participate in W-space then incursions yet they are an eqaully sized ISK faucet plus on top of the NPC buy orders they are making larger bank in nano ribbons. Theres more logic to wrap your mind around. Beyond that is Escalation & Inferno just about balancing? I see maybe 2 additions ( a de/buf status bar & Char customization ) that are not nerfs. When was the last time W-Space was shaken up anyways? Isn't Inferno supposed to be a WAR expansion? What war mechanics are affecting the J-space?
I would agree with you IF wormholes were as risk-free as incursions.
Also, wh space hasn't been shaken up because it's pretty damn close to perfect as it is. As the old saying goes "If it isn't broken, don't fix it." |
Bane Nucleus
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Posted - 2012.04.18 00:50:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Bane Nucleus wrote:
Also, wh space hasn't been shaken up because it's pretty damn close to perfect as it is. As the old saying goes "If it isn't broken, don't fix it."
CCP has been violating the don't break what works rule for soooo long I'm surprised you brought that line up. Sorry but ALL ISK faucets combined are a big problem CCP Soundwave has admitted it to & saying WH's ISK faucet which is concentrated in the hands of much fewer then Incursions ( while being nearly the same exact amount ) shouldn't be touched along with the rest of the Sandbox makes me laugh I iterate CCP where's the Wormhole NERFS to Escaltation WHY ARE THEY GETTING OFF SCOT FREE?? BURN EVERYONE EQUALLY WHERE IT COMES TO THE ISK FAUCET 10% NERFS
You keep saying scot free, like they didn't do anything for it. In order to get this isk faucet going, you need to do multiple cap escalations. This means it's not done by some daytripper scanning himself a wormhole from high sec. This is done by DEDICATED wormhole corps, who risk losing their entire fleet everytime they warp into an anomoly. I have been on both ends of this, both ganking and being ganked. IIRC, this isn't much of an issue in most incursions.
The only problem I see with it being the same exact amount is that you get too much isk doing incursions with very little risk. They should cut the amount of isk you make from incursions. Then it will be balanced.
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Bane Nucleus
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Posted - 2012.04.18 01:32:00 -
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Apolyon I wrote:
or CCP should remove 10% more from incursion for its risk-free environment to compensate for the risk in wh
Exactly. He is comparing wh anoms with incursions like they are on equal ground.
Incursions are like playing tug o' war with a 3 year old.
Escalated wormhole anoms are like stuffing your divesuit full of chopped up fish and jumping into a sea full of sharks, at night. |
Bane Nucleus
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Posted - 2012.04.18 19:47:00 -
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Kirell wrote:I will confirm something for all of you that aren't aware of how much money you can make in wormholes.
I've been living ina C4 wormhole up until recently (I removed everything as I am leaving the game and sellign this char off ad I've recently sold several other chars) I was going to biomass but friends implored me not to mostly because they didn't want everything to go to waste. So to help them enjoy EVE more I'm giving everything away to them.
Anyways.
Wormholes are as someone in this thread stated, a fountain of isk.
In a C4 static C3 (C247) wormhole I could re-roll wormholes in a matter of minutes. I could then scan out a C3 quickly with a max skilled scanning char, and close/bubble any Wh's in that C3. I could run the sites with little to no risk. making approx 300 mil an hour with 3 characters.
The only risk - new Wh's opening up into the system I am running. EASY TO NEGATE just scan every sig, eliminate them (or write down the codes) keep a probe up in system that covers the entire system. watch for ne WH's while doing sleepers = EASY.
C4's I was making around 400 mil an hour using 3 chars - 1 in a carrier and 2 maelstroms. EASY.
C5's make EVEN MORE isk. But need at least 2 people flying 2 chars each totalling 4 tengu's. If you can escalate the sites then even better. You can make approx 500-700 mil an hour iN C5's.
And even with all these precautions, you will still get ganked at some point. Just the nature of the beast. We caught 3 tengus who did this same exact thing. Incoming wh's were bubbled and had mass put through them. It didn't save them.
The point being is that incursions dont have any of these risks. You shouldn't be making as much as wormhole space.
Lastly, Earl Gray tea is the best |
Bane Nucleus
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Posted - 2012.04.19 04:34:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:I'm still asking CCP: In the sanbox o Eve: What is Escalating in J-space (according to the features webpage & DEV blogs absolutely nuthin' ) & how are the peeps in Wormholes going to be swept up into the Inferno a month later? Only thing I hear WH'ers participating in Inferno is thowing gas onto the inflation fire with blue loot while bounties elsewhere get a 10% nerf.
You are either the most dense person in game, or you are trolling. |
Bane Nucleus
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Posted - 2012.04.19 21:30:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Bane Nucleus wrote:Kirell wrote:I will confirm something for all of you that aren't aware of how much money you can make in wormholes.
I've been living ina C4 wormhole up until recently (I removed everything as I am leaving the game and sellign this char off ad I've recently sold several other chars) I was going to biomass but friends implored me not to mostly because they didn't want everything to go to waste. So to help them enjoy EVE more I'm giving everything away to them.
Anyways.
Wormholes are as someone in this thread stated, a fountain of isk.
In a C4 static C3 (C247) wormhole I could re-roll wormholes in a matter of minutes. I could then scan out a C3 quickly with a max skilled scanning char, and close/bubble any Wh's in that C3. I could run the sites with little to no risk. making approx 300 mil an hour with 3 characters.
The only risk - new Wh's opening up into the system I am running. EASY TO NEGATE just scan every sig, eliminate them (or write down the codes) keep a probe up in system that covers the entire system. watch for ne WH's while doing sleepers = EASY.
C4's I was making around 400 mil an hour using 3 chars - 1 in a carrier and 2 maelstroms. EASY.
C5's make EVEN MORE isk. But need at least 2 people flying 2 chars each totalling 4 tengu's. If you can escalate the sites then even better. You can make approx 500-700 mil an hour iN C5's.
And even with all these precautions, you will still get ganked at some point. Just the nature of the beast. We caught 3 tengus who did this same exact thing. Incoming wh's were bubbled and had mass put through them. It didn't save them. The point being is that incursions dont have any of these risks. You shouldn't be making as much as wormhole space. Lastly, Earl Gray tea is the best Tea. Earl Gray. Hot.
Well played. You may now proceed with the Picard maneuver |
Bane Nucleus
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Posted - 2012.05.09 00:28:00 -
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That looks pretty good to me. Wormholes require more effort and risk, so we should get more isk out of it. Nothing to see here. Move along. |
Bane Nucleus
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Posted - 2012.05.17 20:52:00 -
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Apolyon I wrote:Morganta wrote:Apolyon I wrote:maybe because wh offers REAL isk fixed that for you monocle-boy real risk generates risk isk, you jelly???
LOL @ monocle-boy. Apo, you make friends so easy.  |
Bane Nucleus
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Posted - 2012.06.11 21:59:00 -
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Qui Shon wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote:Tbf there is no fuss about blue loot, its 20 something pages of people who think whs are fine. Versus Darth, and some random guy who's gone all bitter vet coz his corp got kicked out of whs. Nah, I've gone "bitter vet" because the blobs are five times as big as when I last played and because everyone flies around with as much bling as I always did, or more even. Which means I can't do my thing alone anymore and will have to become a ***** like you, bound to his flock, if I want to attack peeps in high class wh's.
Is there something stopping you from joining another wh corp, so you can partake in the fun? As it stands now, there are lots of good fights in wh space. It's not just AHARM and CCRES anymore. It's super competitive, so people make more isk to fly nicer ships to inflict more damage on someone else. Sounds good to me!
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